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“When I am President …” – Hilary Clinton Promises Pro-homosexual Administration
Promises expansion of hate crimes laws, Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), and ending military “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy

By Peter J. Smith

NEW YORK, June 4, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – An era of aggressive homosexualist policies is the future for the United States, promises Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, brashly saying when, not if, she becomes President in 2009.

Hillary Clinton, former First Lady and junior Senator from New York, released a statement for “Gay and Lesbian Pride Month” in which she told homosexual activists that the victories for the homosexual agenda obtained by Congressional Democrats and others in the past year are only shades of things to come.

Among these are the demise of the Federal Marriage Amendment, which she called “divisive and discriminatory,” the implementation of civil unions legislation in New Jersey and New Hampshire, and the imminent passage of hate crimes legislation, which President Bush has promised to veto, out of concerns for its implications for religious liberty.

"I'm running for president to replace the divisive leadership of the past six years,” said the former First Lady and junior Senator from New York. “America deserves a president who appeals to the best in each of us, not the worst; a president who values and respects all Americans, gay and straight; a president who treats all Americans equally no matter who they are or who [sic] they love.”

“For six long years, the Bush Administration has only seen the families that matter to them. It's been a government of the few, by the few, and for the few,” Clinton continued.

“But when I take office in January 2009, we'll finally be able to define success by more than the bigotry we stopped and the bad decisions we prevented. America will finally have a president who moves this country forward.”

“She is calling anyone, specifically the President, but anyone else like the President who doesn’t embrace her brand of moral relativism [a bigot],” said Matt Barber, Concerned Women for America’s Policy Director for Cultural Issues to LifeSiteNews.com.

“If the dynamics were such that we had Hillary Clinton in the oval office and a liberal controlled congress then I think there is no doubt … that she will essentially remove any barrier to protection between first amendment freedoms and the radical homosexual agenda.”

Clinton promised a broad expansion of federal hate crimes laws, the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), and the end of the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy in the military.

Barber explained ENDA and the hate crimes legislation are imperatives of the homosexual agenda that “set the table for religious persecution and puts us on a slippery slope to silence any opposition to homosexual lifestyle that is rooted in sincerely held religious beliefs.”

Clinton has positioned herself as the de facto leader of homosexual activists in the United States when she told the homosexual activist group, Human Rights Campaign (HRC), “I am proud to stand by your side” and spoke enthusiastically of the “agenda we are pursuing.”

See related coverage by LifeSiteNews.com:

Hillary Clinton Supported by Big Abortion, Gay Activists and Now the ****** Industry
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/apr/07041906.html

Hillary Clinton Addresses Gay Activists - Identified as Leader of Gay Activist Leaders
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/mar/07030507.html

Also see the website for Minnesota Citizens in Defense of Marriage to see where your elected officials stand.
http://www.mnmarriage.com/index.htm


So I take it that she is...

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So I take it that she is giving herself(ishness) a couple of options, depending on which way the election turns out. a) If she loses (we will know for sure there is a god), she can dump the former "Philanderer In Chief" Husband of hers and come out of the closet. Or b) If she wins, she can still dump her "cheating" husband, and come out of the closet, because she just changed the "gay" laws, and now she can be the first "Lesbian" President!! Ah, I can vision it now. Ellen Degenerate - Vice President. Rosie O'Dumbell -secretary of Defense. Billy Jean King - Secretary of State. Abbe Heche - she can hold two Cabinet positions, because she is a "switch hitter". Martina Navratilova - Secretary of Health and Human servicing of Females. Melissa Etheridge - White House Music director ("came out" during the 1993 inaguration, how convienent). Angelina Jolie - Ambassador to Africa (she's bisexual). Kd Lang - Secretary of Agriculture (caused more stir when coming out as a vegetarian, than as a lesbian. Secretary of Treasury - Suzie Orman. And so the list goes on. How many votes will this "sleazy" tactic get for Hillera??


Submitted by roj2000 on December 23, 2007 - 9:05pm.

Wow, a little homo-phobic,...

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Wow, a little homo-phobic, roj? And I bet lesbian ****** is your favorite too! Get over it! I'm not gay or bisexual, but I believe EVERYONE deserves the same freedoms gay or straight. Not giving everyone the same options is called DISCRIMINATION.

Just because you can pull a couple verses out of the Bible talking about how bad homosexuality doesn't mean that is any worse than telling a lie. Last time I checked, God doesn't rate sins on a point system scale. So, should we discrimiate against those who lie or lust? Better yet, lets poke out lusters eyes and cut of liars tongues! Because you can cure homosexuality with "christian" counseling, right?

Last time I checked, God gave EVERYONE a FREE WILL. I'm going to use mine to vote for someone who is NOT a discriminating bigot (unlike Huckabee, McCain, etc.).


Submitted by JaneinIF on December 27, 2007 - 3:58pm.

Interesting comment from...

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Interesting comment from JaneinIF

It would be nice to see your reaction when your boy friend/common law spouse starts cheating on you!!

Don't get jealous when he/she dumps and goes with another man/woman


Submitted by fallsNfort on January 1, 2008 - 3:37am.

Interesting indeed since you...

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Interesting indeed since you must have me confused with someone else! Happily married and have been for 17 years - no common-law or boyfriend here.


Submitted by JaneinIF on January 1, 2008 - 10:40am.

Yes Jane, I agree they...

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Yes Jane, I agree they should enjoy the same rights as everyone else. Therefore they should be able to buy insurance from companies that want to sell them insurance. They can be married by Pastors who agree to perform their ceremonies, and go to the churches that support their choices. They should not however be allowed to "force" churches to accept their viewpoints. They should not be allowed to force anyone, or any company to change their policies towards this group of people. I suggest this then to be "fair", let them set up thier own companies, and churches. Let them create their own society, in fact in most places they do just that. I agree that they can enjoy the freedoms afforded by living in these United States, I just don't think they should force policy on those who disagree with thier viewpoints, as they do in Europe, Canada, and other places on the globe.


Submitted by concernedperson on February 14, 2008 - 9:22am.

Man Roj, I kind of see some...

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Man Roj, I kind of see some of your point, I'm not an HC fan either, but you are either good or your mind is going at he speed of plaid. Oh and by the way, 65 and I are having a spat, he is still an idiot, and I did give some "Big" clues in my responses for you but if you have too, ask ANTON, he knows, but if you go back and read a few months ago some comments you and he had, maybe you will receive a present.


Submitted by Doorsman 54 on December 23, 2007 - 9:51pm.

Doorsman, Go back a few...

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Doorsman,

Go back a few months?? And what did I and Anton converse about. He and the other 1965 graduates, will not "hardly ever" talk or converse with us low-lifes who are not part of the "65" scene! So, I don't even know where to start, in my search for the "big present"!! I have no idea of any subject, that The Great ANTON and I could have been having a discussion about! But, I'm glad to hear that you are one of the few "up there" who are not buying her BS, 100%. Her koolaid must taste really good, in the cold weather! And it wasn't very hard to notice that you and the Great One were having a little spat!! For some reason, he gives the impression that you have some real influence in the community! So, what gives?? I really know you?


Submitted by roj2000 on December 23, 2007 - 10:37pm.

I think McCain has a...

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I think McCain has a following up here, he is coming on, I alway as you know liked him, did think about Huck and Biden, still like him(Biden) but never gave up on McCain even when others did,not you and yes, you know me. Merry Christmas. Ever fly a B24 Roj?


Submitted by Doorsman 54 on December 23, 2007 - 10:44pm.

*One sunny** day, an old...

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*One sunny** day, an old man approached the White House from across

Pennsylvania Avenue , where he'd been sitting on a park bench.

*

*He spoke to the Marine standing guard and said, 'I would like to go in

and meet with President Hillary Clinton.'

The Marine replied, 'Sir, Mrs. Clinton is not President and doesn't

reside here.'

The old man said, 'Okay,' and walked away.

The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to

the same Marine, 'I would like to go in and meet with President Hillary

Clinton'.

The Marine again told the man, 'Sir, as I said yesterday, Mrs. Clinton

is not President and doesn't reside here.'

The man thanked him and again walked away.

The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the

very same Marine, saying 'I would like to go in and meet with President

Hillary Clinton.'

The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man

and said, 'Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here

asking to speak to Mrs. Clinton. I've told you already several times

that Mrs. Clinton is not the President and doesn't reside here. Don't

you understand?'

The old man answered, 'Oh, I understand you fine; I just love hearing

your answer!'

The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, *

*'See you again tomorrow, Sir.'*


Submitted by Schmitty53 on December 27, 2007 - 11:31am.

Schmitty53, That was great!...

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Schmitty53,

That was great! I take back all the bad things I've ever said to you!! LOL.


Submitted by roj2000 on December 27, 2007 - 12:25pm.

Implications for You and...

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Implications for You and Your Family
Should Same-Sex Marriage be Legalized
You might ask yourself, “Why should I care if a homosexual couple wants to marry? This doesn’t
affect my marriage, right?” Wrong. Legalization of same-sex unions will lead to tremendous
irreversible changes that will directly impact you, your children and the future of our society.
· Marriage and the family as we know it today will be destroyed by separating marriage from
procreation, ultimately depriving motherhood and fatherhood of all legal meaning and putting the
state in charge of determining which adult or group of adults to which a child will belong.
· Sex education and social studies in our public schools will include all aspects of same-sex partner
lifestyles. Children, as young as kindergarteners, will be indoctrinated with a curriculum that seeks
to legitimize homosexuality and same-sex relationships as a normal part of our society. Children
will be enticed to experiment with homosexuality, putting kids at increased risk for HIV, hepatitis,
gay bowel syndrome and a variety of other sexually transmitted diseases that are common amongst
homosexuals.
· Children raised in same-sex couple relationships will be deprived of the proven, best environment
for their upbringing – a committed, monogamous marriage of a mother and a father. Adoption
agencies will cease to favor married, heterosexual homes, placing more children in motherless or
fatherless households.
· Our lawmakers will be pressured to pass additional hate-crime laws that will make it illegal to
speak-out against homosexuality, including the public recitation of certain Bible verses. Silencing
the truth about homosexuality will encourage more people to enter and remain trapped in the
lifestyle.
· Churches could lose their IRS tax status and could be legally liable if they refuse to honor same-sex
couples’ requests to be married within the church.
· States will be eventually forced to legalize polygamy and other types of polyamory unions, as
marriage is transformed into a variety of relationship contracts (see Star Tribune article of January
1, 2005).
· Businesses will be forced to provide healthcare coverage to same-sex couples. Studies have shown
that homosexuals have dramatically higher health care costs due to their lifestyle. Many businesses
are already struggling to maintain adequate affordable health coverage for their employees.
Adding mandatory coverage for same-sex couples could be enough to push these employers into
insolvency or discontinuing health coverage for all employees.
· Taxpayers will be forced to pay higher taxes to finance state-sponsored social programs and
benefits for same-sex couples.
· Legislators will required to divert their attention to rewriting of hundreds of state and federal laws
to accommodate same-sex unions.
· Social security will become financially insolvent more quickly as same-sex couples claim survivor
benefits.
· And individuals that believe a child needs both a mother and a father for their best upbringing will
be deemed intolerant and bigots.
If you think these possibilities are far-fetched, consider the fact that many of these events are already
occurring in Canada, Sweden, England and Ireland where same-sex unions have been legal for some
time. Whether it’s called same-sex “marriage” or “civil unions”, the social implications are the same. Is
this the legacy you want to leave for our children?


Submitted by Schmitty53 on December 27, 2007 - 4:04pm.

I completely disagree with...

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I completely disagree with you.

I was raised in a "Baptist" home with a mother and father. I would have much rather enjoyed a home where both parents loved me and treated me with respect verses parents who controlled me and indoctrined me with "rules".

Who cares if a child has one mother and one father or two fathers or two mothers? IF that child is loved and cared for, what does it matter?

I think you should concern yourself more with those in need. How about the working poor that can't make ends meet? How about the rising homeless population of families with children? HOw about the rising veteran homeless population? Why not put your efforts towards helping those population rather than putting so much effort into the homosexuality issue?

I recommend you do some more reading. Most homosexuals are educated and employed - I hightly doubt that there would be an increase on the "social services". If they needed those services, they prbly already have them individually. You can receive food stamps and state medical and be homosexual - shock, I know!

Not all homosexuals get HIV or sexually transmitted diseases. Last time I looked at the figures, the rise in HIV was among heterosexual african american women. And your point about medical further proves we need a government healthcare initiative. And if any homosexual is employed, he is already on his employers medical coverage - he/she just can't add their partner. SO I think your assumptions are rather exaggerated.

I'm sorry, but I think your arguments are weak and lack substance.

God gave EVERYONE a free will. And last time I read my Bible, it said "judge not lest ye be judged also." So, why not stop worrying about the homosexuals and start worrying about the homeless and impoverished?


Submitted by lesleyk on December 27, 2007 - 4:32pm.

Yes we have a free will, but...

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Yes we have a free will, but what we do still matters to God, and since you like to quote him remember that Jesus also said by their fruits you will know them.


Submitted by concernedperson on December 27, 2007 - 10:27pm.

I remember that quote and...

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I remember that quote and anyone that knows me knows that I am a good person.

Just because I believe that homosexuals have rights means I am some evil person. As individual witha God given free will, I choose to believe discrimination of homosexuals is a sin.


Submitted by lesleyk on December 28, 2007 - 12:09am.

According to God's word all...

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According to God's word all mankind is desparately wicked and needs devine intervention. That also includes me, also according to God's word there is no such thing as different degrees of sin, that is a human understanding. To God to sin just once makes a person guilty under His law, and therefore worthy to be subjected to punishment. I believe that that punishment is meted out in two arenas; the physical, and the spiritual. If one lies repeatedly, no one will believe that person or trust that person's word. you will hopefully understand my point here. As far as being tolerant of homosexuals, I do tolerate them as humans with God given rights and freedoms, but I do not want to be forced to make "special exceptions" just because they have a different sexual orientation. That I beleive is an infringement on my rights.


Submitted by concernedperson on December 28, 2007 - 10:21am.

leslyK, it occurs to me that...

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leslyK, it occurs to me that I have somehow neglected answering your post regarding the issues you stated. First helping 'those in need' The problems faced by those in need are complicated and difficult. The fact of few decent paying employment opportunities in this community as well as the wholesale abandonment of the workforce in the United States by the business community in favor of cheaper labor in foriegn countries really exacerbates this issue. The fact that public schools in our country rarely prepare students to compete in the worldwide job market compounds what already is a very serious situation. And finally the entitlement mentality of the average citizen coupled with ignorarance of how to fund such programs, and the outcry (rightly) over the amount of tax load these programs would incur complicates this matter even further. Then there are those who are the needy themselves. Having spent a long time working with these individuals, I know some of the personal issues these people face, from poor work skills, a failure to adequately prepare themselves to be part of a changing workforce to downright psychological problems that hinder long term employment. Literally this problem is a bottomless pit that won't be fixed in our children's, children's, lifetime unless there are great changes in the way we view education and worldwide business.
I completely agree with your point regarding the incomes of the gay and lesbian workforce, but disagree with your viewpoint regarding their ultimate financial security. I have visited group homes of homosexuals who have been infected with HIV, they are not able to work, and have been abandoned by their "partner" because they were unfortunate enough to contract this terrible disease. This is what usually happens to these unfortunates, and then they become the problem of the taxpayers. Now they are contracting drug resistant staph through their sexual practices. What will happen to them right now is uncertain, but my guess is that like those who have contracted HIV, they too will be ostraczed by their community.
This is just more food for thought, hope that you won't think me hateful, btw when was the last time you spent time helping some of the least of these?


Submitted by concernedperson on January 21, 2008 - 12:59pm.

It's interesting how people...

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It's interesting how people on here go to personal attacks and pointing fingers when they can't directly answer any of the questions they've been asked. Maybe it's a computer virus of sorts?

I have been volunteering since I was 12 in homeless shelters, soup kitchens, church nursery programs, etc. Currently, I am involved on several boards within the community that help those in need. I would like to do more with helping people directly, but the right opportnity hasn't presented itself. Plus, after losing my position at Kootasca, I have had to take some time for myself. I loved my job and helping others. I have always made an effort make a difference in the community in which I live.


Submitted by lesleyk on January 21, 2008 - 4:40pm.

leslyk, good to know that...

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leslyk, good to know that you have been personally involved in directly helping others. I meant no slight to you or anyone else. It seems to me that I did indeed answer the questions you posted earlier. Perhaps you find the explanation I gave unsuitable and therefore have rejected my position. In any case my experiences have been the norm., and not the exception. There are national statistics that bear this out. I do not mean to slight those who have stayed with a seriosly ill partner, but this seems to be the exception rather than the norm. BTW it tends to happen across sexual preference lines, most unfortunate for the terminally ill.


Submitted by concernedperson on January 22, 2008 - 1:05am.

It's interesting how people...

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It's interesting how people on here go to personal attacks and pointing fingers when they can't directly answer any of the questions they've been asked. Maybe it's a computer virus of sorts?

I have been volunteering since I was 12 in homeless shelters, soup kitchens, church nursery programs, etc. Currently, I am involved on several boards within the community that help those in need. I would like to do more with helping people directly, but the right opportnity hasn't presented itself. Plus, after losing my position at Kootasca, I have had to take some time for myself. I loved my job and helping others. I have always made an effort make a difference in the community in which I live.


Submitted by lesleyk on January 21, 2008 - 4:40pm.

I sure wished God had not...

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I sure wished God had not had to wait until I was sleeping to take one of my ribs to make Eve my mate. I have had a pain in my side ever since. If He had just asked me what I wanted I could have given Him my answer straight out. Adam, do you want Me to make you an Eve for your mate or do you want Me to make you a Joe for your mate? I mean how hard of a question was this to answer? I certainly would have picked Eve and not Joe. I mean, I was already planning on Cain and his brother to start the population growth plan I had in mind, what good would Joe have done me? Where would all the women, with those tall straight backs and long silky hair, now living in International Falls, Minnesota have come from if I had not had Eve? Besides, you don't think Joe would have gone out one afternoon and picked a bushel of apples do you?


Submitted by Anton1965 on January 5, 2008 - 12:50pm.

Anton, But why would God...

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Anton,

But why would God make "woman" out of such a cheap cut of meat (a rib)?? Had to be a reason. Maybe he was on a budget??


Submitted by roj2000 on January 5, 2008 - 1:33pm.

No, I don't think He was on...

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No, I don't think He was on a budget roj, I think He just had a "bone to pick" with Adam is what the situation was all about. One of those unsolved things to ponder I guess.


Submitted by Anton1965 on January 5, 2008 - 1:46pm.

Some interesting stats for...

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Some interesting stats for you after a google search. I am sure you can go to all the right-wing sites to refute these, but if you go to a non-biased site, these are what you will find!

The average household income for lesbians in the U.S. is estimated at
$45,927, while for gay men it was $51,325. In 1990 the average household
income in the U.S. for all families was $36,520.

An estimated 6 million to 14 million children have a lesbian or gay parent.
Courts in 11 states have ruled that gay men and lesbians, on the basis of
their sexual orientation, are unfit to receive custody of their children.
A review of 9 studies of aspects of personal development--such as
self-concept, moral judgment, and intelligence-revealed no significant
difference between children of lesbians and gay men and children of
heterosexuals.

The word "homosexual" did not appear in any translation of the Christian
Bible until 1946. There are words in Greek for same-sex sexual activities, yet they never
appear in the original text of the New Testament.

Approximately 20% of all persons with AIDS are 20-29 years old: given the long latency period between infection and the onset of the disease, many were probably infected as teenagers. (Lehman. M. HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report, 5 (1) 1993)

"Homosexuals are probably the most frequent victims of[hate crimes]" (US Department of Justice 1987).

Studies of older homosexual people show that gay relationships lasting over 20 years are not uncommon.

In a large sample of couples followed for 18 months the following "break up" statistics were observed: lesbians=22%, gay=16%, cohabiting heterosexuals=17%, married heterosexuals=4%


Submitted by lesleyk on December 27, 2007 - 4:49pm.

Dear Lesleyk, I'm sorry you...

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Dear Lesleyk,

I'm sorry you didn't have two loving parents, but all children need to learn that there are rules. Without them the chilren end up running the house.

I notice you said "my Bible" and then quoted "judge not lest ye be judged also."

Is "your Bible" in the list below?

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New American Standard Bible (©1995)
'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.

King James Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

American Standard Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Bible in Basic English
You may not have sex relations with men, as you do with women: it is a disgusting thing.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination.

Darby Bible Translation
And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination.

English Revised Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Jewish Publication Society Tanakh
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is abomination.

Webster's Bible Translation
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

World English Bible
"'You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable.

Young's Literal Translation
And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it is.

How will ye be judged?


Submitted by Schmitty53 on December 27, 2007 - 5:15pm.

Again, - The word...

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Again, - The word "homosexual" did not appear in any translation of the Christian Bible until 1946. There are words in Greek for same-sex sexual activities, yet they never appear in the original text of the New Testament. How do you explain this?

I have nothing against teaching children rules - I have four children, myself. But there is a difference btwn a "ruling God" and a "loving God." I choose teach my children about a Loving God. I also choose to not have my children fear me nor do I believe in spanking them for every wrong they do. Spoil the rod, spare the child - doesn't give free rein to spank for every mis-step.


Submitted by lesleyk on December 27, 2007 - 5:21pm.

God is a just God, that...

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God is a just God, that means he expects us to follow His rules that he gave to us to keep us morally pure. We don't have the luxury to pick and chose who or what kind of God, God is. And when He judges the world for sin (see Revelation 16) it will have been after giving many opportunities to turn away from sin and evil. Not to portray God as he really is, not as you want him to be is self deception and propounding a lie to yourself and your children. God IS sovereign over "HIS" creation.


Submitted by concernedperson on December 27, 2007 - 9:47pm.

Lesley, I disagree with you...

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Lesley, I disagree with you regarding your statement about there being a differfence between a "Ruling God" and a "Loving God" To be exact, God is God, and is both a ruling God, and a loving God. If He wasn't we'd all be in a lot of trouble. If as you claim you went to Bible college you would know this. To state their is a difference shows that you must not have paid much attention in school. I hope you didn't spend much because I am sure you can't get a refund. Maybe you could take them to court since obviously they failed to teach you anything. Please don't take this wrong, I mean no disrespect, It just occurs to me your statement about God from a graduate of Bob Jones University makes me wonder how you could know so little about the nature of God :o)


Submitted by concernedperson on February 2, 2008 - 11:27pm.

How about you answer her...

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How about you answer her other points?

Instead of just quoting Bible verses, have any other sources to prove this???


Submitted by JaneinIF on December 27, 2007 - 5:33pm.

The Bible is the best...

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The Bible is the best selling book in the world, it's trust worthyness is beyond reproach, it preservation in its current form is nothing more than miraculous. No other book or source could be as good or speak nearly so authoritatively on any subject.


Submitted by concernedperson on December 27, 2007 - 9:56pm.

Sorry it took so long for me...

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Sorry it took so long for me to do just that. My sources are the experiences of helping those in the lifestyle who have been ostrcized for being unfortune enough to "somehow" contract the scourge of HIV/AIDS. All of these persons had become indigent and disabled. What I didn't experience were atheists, or agnostics taking any time to care for, and help out in many of these places, nor at any of the natural disasters that I took the time to work at.


Submitted by concernedperson on January 21, 2008 - 1:08pm.

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