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Heartless State Troop
February 5, 2008 - 10:00pm — rlsummer
I cannot believe how cruel and heartless our state trooper and sheirff are towards other peoples pets. And my tax money is paying for them. Ok the reason why is that a friend of mine's dog had gotten away from them last night, and while they were looking for their dog, it came across the scranner that a dog had gotten hit, but only had a broken leg. My friends called the police department, but they said they have no record and that they would have to call the state trooper since it was out of city limits. (out towards Ranier) They gotten the state trooper name who had the dog (all a while didn't know if it was their's or not). The trooper didn't contacted them until morning, and it was their dog. The cruel and heartless part is that the state trooper and sheirff did not follow prodical. The dog only had a broken leg. Prodical was to contact the humane society and they would take care of the dog. Instead they thru the dog in the back of the sheirff's truck with a thin blanket outside in the cold. The dog died of exposure and went into shock. In the morning, this mean and heartless sheriff and state trooper thru the dog on the side of the road. When the trooper finally gotten back to my friend regarding the dog. He brought them to him on the side of the road, and told them everything that happen. My friend called the humane society to tell them they had found their dog and what happen. The humane society informed them that they didn't follow prodical. The dog (Jake) who was loved very much by an child with autism, and is very upset was also the owner's siezure dog. The dog did have tags, but at the time of the accident the tags weren't on him. I am very much outraged of our state troop and sheriff's duties. To the people who life up on the lake, please be extra care with your animals, and don't count on the sheriff or the state trooper help you might not see your dog alive again. RIP Jake. |
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I am so sorry for the...
Back to page topI am so sorry for the family's loss of their special friend.
I hope these so-called...
Back to page topI hope these so-called "officers of the law" were reported to more than the humane society. Their actions are inexcuseable. How can anyone let an animal suffer such a death? I sure would like to know who these "big boys with their toys" were.
Firstly, yes we all feel for...
Back to page topFirstly, yes we all feel for the dog that's too bad that it had to die. However, as I was sifting through the spelling errors and such I became slightly more and more distracted from the story and more switched on to the fact that maybe you should be worrying about some more education rather than an animal.
I'd just like to point these out for you so you have them for future use. Sheirff is sheriff, simple mistake and typo. It's all good. If you threw a dog it's a lot easier than going thru the dog, even though thru is a informal and simplified spelling. Protocol is what these guys should be following...there's many more, but I'll be nice today.
Now on with my questioning. How did you hear of the story about how the dog was treated? Did the officers involved confess to the actions of leaving it in their truck with a blanket or is this an assumption? Not saying it isn't true, just trying to make sure we're not reading down the line of exaggerated stories here.
Now I don't know about you, but I've seen a few dogs in my day and they have these big ol' fur coats on themselves and upon the assumption that this dog wasn't a tiny chihuahua I would think that it would have enough fur to withstand an evening in the "cold" with a blanket. It was quite warm on the night of the 4th and even myself could have withstood the night in the bed of a truck with a thin blanket.
Finally, it's a dog. I'm sure there are more tragic things in life to worry about rather than a dog. What if there happened to be a 911 call to a brutal car accident and they didn't have time to follow through on a dog when lives were at stake? Far fetched, but things to come up. If you're genuinely concerned about your friend and their family, maybe you could help out by finding a new dog for the child or volunteering some of your time to watch the kid, take him(or her) out to play in the snow, watch a Disney movie, anything to fill the now void.
Servo, you must live a sad...
Back to page topServo,
you must live a sad and very lonely pathetic life. To sit there and make you feel better and nit pick on someone. Yes I am very well educated. I know the whole story because yes the state trooper was dumb enough to tell the whole story. In the end it got him into trouble. The county commissioner was called and had a meeting.
I am so sorry that my grammer and spelling had bugged you enough to say something so cruel and heartless. So sorry that I was consoling my children, and wanted to get the message out. Obviously, you never had a dog in your life. He was part of their lives, and part of my family lives. All dogs are different and unique. You can never replace that dog.
Obviously, you missed the whole story. HE WAS A SIEZURE DOG. That means he comfort his owner when his owner had a seizures. He was therapeutic to both his owner and my CHILD WITH AUTISM. Read up on that.
The point of this was what happen was cruel not the grammer. In the end I truely feel sorry for you if that is what your life is all about nit picking.
Servo, Was that really...
Back to page topServo,
Was that really necessary. A loss is a loss whether it be a loved one or a pet. You just don't run out and replace it. I'm hoping this isn't the real side of you and that you are just playing a game to stir things up. Either way it was inappropriate, more so than any bad grammar or spelling mistake. I think your life is missing something and it has made you cold and uncaring. Most of all I hope you find your way back from it.
Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me!
a couple of symtoms in an...
Back to page topa couple of symtoms in an animal with an injury is lower than normal body temps and shivering plus more. So I think a warm blanket and a warm building or such wouldn't have been too much to ask until the owner or vet help for the animal could be found.
All 3 of you, boo hoo. It's...
Back to page topAll 3 of you, boo hoo. It's a dog. If people weren't responsible enough to keep the dog out of the road, that's their own fault.
Welcome to life. Things die. Get over it.
Servo, If you have nothing...
Back to page topServo,
If you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all. If you don't care don't bother putting in your two-cents in. Because from past blogs no one cares what you have to say.
"Welcome to life. Things...
Back to page top"Welcome to life. Things die. Get over it". I hope you wouldn't say this to a friend that just lost a loved one or one watching someone they love fight for their life! Have you been there or are you just that heartless. To many people pets are family, they are there with unconditional love and fill a void that only someone with a sorrowful life wouldn't understand. I hope you find love and peace in your life and you can someday share it with others. The sharpness of your tongue is destructive and you really must have to try to be that way- ask yourself why!
"To thine ownself be true."...
Back to page top"To thine ownself be true." If it's working for you man-keep on working it.
Okay, Despite the fact that...
Back to page topOkay,
Despite the fact that a lot of people on these blogs have nothing better to do than sit back and belittle others (Servo, you have your own share of typos, maybe you need a grammar guide yourself), there are some other things to consider.
If the troopers or officers did in fact break the rules so flagrantly, why is this the first that is heard about it and why is some randome citizen the only one who is knowledgeable? Its the information age, people!! Stuff gets out! Until a report is seen from the authorities, I am inclined to believe the story in the original posting is pretty well out there as far as small town conspiracies go.
The other point I would like to make is that if you really have spoken to the Humane Society, you know that they are impossible to get ahold of, especially nights and weekend, so finding the "protocol" would be pretty tough.
I mourn the loss of all animals, but an anonymous blog site at a local new source is the last place to begin unleashing every "story" that hits our ears.
Knowledge is power....
Back to page topKnowledge is power.
Power is abused....
Back to page topPower is abused.
Only when you put you nose...
Back to page topOnly when you put you nose into it. The point is that the state trooper behavior was wrong. What if it was a car accident and he as a nasty attitude.
I don't know about you but I...
Back to page topI don't know about you but I certainly think differently between loss of human life and loss of animal life. I also react to situations involving each much differently. I'd definitely put more thought and passion into rescuing a person than an animal. Each to their own, I guess.
But if you'd like to continue comparing apples to oranges I could find a few more examples to where I think he should have just left the dog there for the birds.
whatever, servo. The point...
Back to page topwhatever, servo. The point went over your head and out the door.
fair point, i guess, but...
Back to page topfair point, i guess, but this is int'l falls we're talking about...were there any horrible car accidents that took place at or around the time of the dog incident? any crazy crime capers involving high speed chases? any serious medical emergencies requiring highway patrol assistance? (and of course everyone knows...everyone listens to their scanners or gossips with their friends who do)...No???
Then the dog should have been given adequate care. No ifs ands or buts about it. Human life may be different from animal life, but the way we treat animals reflects strongly on how we treat and view anyone or thing weaker than we (humans included). Stop trying to upset people, Servo...if you can't understand how upset someone would get over the loss of a pet, then you either haven't lost a pet that meant a great deal to you, or you're not terribly good with empathy.
These blogs are certainly dangerous in terms of the ability for the rumor mill to go out of control, and for people to badmouth others without knowing the full story. Maybe we don't know the full story in this situation, and so people shouldn't go crazy badmouthing the troopers, but it's not at all unreasonable to say that if a dog had been picked up by the troopers, it shouldn't have died of exposure. If they had left it out there, so be it. If they pick it up and then neglect it, that is wrong, it is irresponsible, and it is unethical.
Yes, we ALL listen to our...
Back to page topYes, we ALL listen to our scanners. How pathetic is a town when the biggest news is derived from a radio scanner tuned into the emergency channels? Do you have nothing better to do than spy on your neighbors and children of your friends just so that you have a greasy story for the next evening? Is Oprah not exciting enough for you or have you run out of chocolate to eat during American Idol? It's truly sad to know that the biggest turn on in this rundown, hellhole of a city is news of someone getting arrested, injured, pulled over or similar. God forbid if anyone ever heard, "Wow, Jim did real good in that marathon." But no, it's always, "Hey did you hear Susan's son got a speeding ticket last eve? He's such a devil child, you know."
You are correct, I am not empathetic in any way, shape or form. I have lost many a pet in my years on earth, but I am not about to dwell over them. What's the point? Especially when one doesn't assume enough responsibility to keep their beloved pet out of the road at all hours of the evening. Then you must disturb a handful of people in the middle of the night to rescue, search and care for your animal until you can properly identify them? No dog tags? No effort to get out and search yourself? No chain in the yard?
And you said so yourself, human life is different than animal life. The treatment of an animal is WAY different than the treatment of humans. When was the last time you slapped a human on the nose when it did something wrong? You can't do that, humans fight back or worse, they press charges and cry like 9yr olds to everyone they know. If a dog fought back, you'd immediately put it to sleep for standing up for itself. So, how the reflection is show, I do not know.
And I agree, the blogs do get out of control. But rumor is going to fly, one way or another. More of my overspent 2 cents: putting a blog and forum on a newspaper website is about the dumbest thing anyone on the planet could have done. Let's mix fact with opinion with false, see what we have.
Goodness you seem angry...I...
Back to page topGoodness you seem angry...I apologize if I insinuated that you were amongst the scanner crowd. I don't find Int'l Falls to be pathetic b/c it's a small town and feeds on its gossip. That's what small towns do. For the record, I no longer live in the Falls...it could be said I have "nothing better to do" because I still stay up on the local news in my hometown...it could also be said that I just have a strong fondness for the place and care about its citizens and issues, small town though they may be. At any rate, if it offends you that everyone knows everyone else's business there (and they do, believe me, they do), and makes you think it a hell-hole...well...move, maybe? At any rate, the point I was making wasn't about the gossip mill or the scanner-listening folk...the point was that given nobody knew of any horrible accidents, then we could reasonably say that when dealing with these "less serious" situations, we should be able to expect professionalism and responsibility from our law officers. If you wouldn't find yourself responsible for an injured animal and stop to pick it up, fine. But to me, if you put an injured animal in your vehicle and THEN neglect it, you're irresponsible. And unethical. And cruel.
Additionally, I said human life MAY be different from animal life. Were I to solidly proclaim their differences, for me personally, the differences would be minimal. We are all sentient creatures...I don't think it is ok to cause needless pain to any creature. The only real difference for me is that I wouldn't kill humans for food/clothing/shelter. Truth be told, though, unless we are talking the most extreme survival situation imaginable, I wouldn't kill my dog for those reasons either. I don't really treat animals on an individual level much differently than I treat humans, though (don't go crazy on this...of course I don't talk to my dog expecting him to respond, or dress him up, etc...)...I wouldn't hit an animal unless it was attacking - same goes for humans. I wouldn't put an animal to sleep for being aggressive any sooner than I would a human...I'd find someone capable of caring for an aggressive animal. Certainly, in a life or death situation, if forced to choose between saving an animal or saving a human, I'd choose the human...but I and many others have a deep love for animals, and so your view that pets die, and we shouldn't be upset because a) they are merely animals and b) we know they'll die, isn't something we live by. People die too...but I still weep when I lose those I love (and sometimes when people I don't even know die). If you don't feel the same way about animals that I do, that's fine, and I don't judge you for not feeling that way...but don't act like only your view is acceptable. Some of us grieve for animals...let us.
The one thing I agree with you on is that people need to be more responsible with their pets. My own pet has NEVER been out of my control. People shouldn't have pets if they can't protect them...people also shouldn't have children if they can't protect them (and believe me, there are PLENTY of people i've seen in this world....both in and out of I Falls) who should NOT have been allowed to have children (nor should they be allowed pets). That said, just as a parent's failure to protect their child doesn't negate that child's right to not be treated cruelly, abused, killed, etc...a human's failure to keep a pet safe doesn't negate that animal's right to be spared from cruelty.
Susan who? I didn't hear...
Back to page topSusan who? I didn't hear about this.
Nasty just plain nasty....
Back to page topNasty just plain nasty.
OK its sad that someone lost...
Back to page topOK its sad that someone lost a pet but there are a few things in this story that need to be questioned. Was an autopsy performed on the dog? If not then the real cause of death could have been related to it getting hit by a car, I have lost many dogs on the highway as a matter of fact out of all the dogs that have been hit on the highway none have lived. This is because the animal was hit at 50+ mph and there is alot more then a broken leg. I'm guessing being Int'l Falls that no autopsy was performed and i know how hard it is to get ahold of a vet or the humane society after hours. I also know its typically the state troopers are sent out to clean up dead animals off of the road, Maybe just Maybe they knew the animal wasn't going to survive and they laid it in the back of a sheriffs truck and covered it with a blanket to make its last moments on this earth as peaceful as they could. Isn't that something you could think about before lashing out at someone who one day may save your life?
When Freedom is Outlawed, Only Outlaws will be free.
Why weren't your dogs tied...
Back to page topWhy weren't your dogs tied up. One might be an accident but "many" is your fault. Please explain.
It wasn't my dog. But he had...
Back to page topIt wasn't my dog. But he had gotten off his tie out, and his tags had broken off.
A good portion of my life i...
Back to page topA good portion of my life i lived out in the country and we lost dogs on the roads just like everyone else if you closest neighbor is a mile away odds are you don't chain up your dogs living on a farm. Now since i have moved to city limits i have lost no animals on the road because dogs stay tied up when they are outside and cats by god are not allowed outside at all.
When Freedom is Outlawed, Only Outlaws will be free.
As my wife and I were...
Back to page topAs my wife and I were watching another mind numbing episode of American Idol, we noticed a car out on the shoulder of Highway 11 East with the four way flashers on. It appeared that a person was in front of the vehicle looking at something. Then a pickup came by with lights on top, so I assumed it was the Sheriff's truck. Alas it was. Another vehicle parked behind the truck. All of the people were in front of the first vehicle and commenting on something and my wife said that it might be a dog that was struck by the first vehicle. Sure enough, the deputy drove to our house and asked me if I owned a dog and I said no and we talked about other dogs in the neighborhood. He then left and we noticed the other car (apparently the state patrol) going from house to house in our neighborhood looking for the owners of the stricken dog. After ten minutes or so, the sheriff and the state patrol man then placed a tarp of some kind in the back of the sheriff's truck and lifted the poor animal into it. My wife and I thought that if the dog could be saved, the sheriff would have called the Borderland Humane Society and had the dog treated. After loading the dog into the truck, all parties headed west back into town and we did not know what happened to the poor dog until now. If this is the way that our law enforcement treats injuries to animals like dogs and the like, don't see me calling 911 anytime soon! You might find me or a family member at the bottom of a ditch with a broken leg but dead of hypothermia!
So you have certain fact...
Back to page topSo you have certain fact that the animal was just fine, that it wasn't in fact dead or brutally injured? And your wife and you both thought that IF the dog could be saved they would have called the BHS, so what if it couldn't be? They'd probably just tarp it up and throw it in the back of the truck, right?
Also, if the treatment of a dog on it's deathbed is going to be your basis of comparison to your next need of aid for your family, you should probably quit watching reality TV and get a clue. Honestly, you'd let your family suffer because of one small dog incident? Maybe you should start calling family members and letting them know that they are on their own from here on out. And if that's the case, then maybe 911 emergency responses should completely deny you of any aid in the future for conspiring to boycott a state controlled service. Awesome choice!
These two "ignorant"...
Back to page topThese two "ignorant" Officers, make I-Falls look like Mayberry RFD!! How hard would it have been to bring the dog back to the Police Station and keep it warm and try to get someone to determine it's condition. Does the Falls close up after 10:00 PM?? No one could have been contacted to come and check out the dog? No, these Officers probably had to get to the Chocolate Moose for coffee. They do have priorities you know! So, let's "OUT" these two fine Officers of the Community, so everyone knows who is protecting their "best interests"!!
Roj, have you come across...
Back to page topRoj, have you come across the true story and have reason to complain or are you just excreting more gossip to stir the pot more so than it already is?
This topic is an endless pool of tales until someone comes up with the full story and statement from the officers at hand.
OK lets remember where you...
Back to page topOK lets remember where you are, you are in Ifalls, this is not Huston or Detroit we do not have Animal cops and 24hr vets on call. To me if the police came upon an animal that has been hit by a car and they spend the next 10 min or more trying to find its owner by going door to door by your own admission, they have done there job. This Dog Jake must have traveled out of his home range if the police did not locate the owner in 10+ min. Im still saying the injuries to the dog where greater then just a broken leg and that is why it is dead, It could have died from exposure but it could have been dead when the police came upon it and it died before they got to it, or died while they where trying to find its owner at that point why should they get someone out of bed when the dog is already dead it could wait untill morning at that point. Like i said it is sad someone has lost a pet, but I know how gossip in Ifalls gets and this seems to be one of them things where it has been spiced up to make it hot talk.
When Freedom is Outlawed, Only Outlaws will be free.