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Thought provoking commentary by Ben Stein



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The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

My confession:

I am a Jew, and every single one of my
ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother
me even a little bit when people call those
beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas
trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel
discriminated against. That's what they are:
Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say,
'Merry Christmas' to me. I don't think they
are slighting me or getting ready to put me
in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It
shows that we are all brothers and sisters
celebrating this happy time of year. It
doesn't bother me at all that there is a
manger scene on display at a key
intersection near my beach house in Malibu.
If people want a church, it's just as fine
with me as is the Menorah a few hundred
yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being
a Jew, and I don't think Christians like
getting pushed around for being Christians.
I think people who believe in God are sick
and tired of getting pushed around, period.
I have no idea where the concept came from
that America is an explicitly atheist
country. I can' t find it in the
Constitution and I don't like it being
shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did
the idea come from that we should worship
Nick and Jessica and we aren't allowed to
worship God as we understand Him? I guess
that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But
there are a lot of us who are wondering
where Nick and Jessica came from and where
the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one
another for a laugh, this is a little
different: This is not intended to be a
joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get
you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on
the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her
'How could God let something like this
happen?' (regarding Katrina) Anne Graham
gave an extremely profound and insightful
response. She said, 'I believe God is deeply
saddened by this, just as we are, but for
years we've been telling God to get out of
our schools, to get out of our government
and to get out of our lives.
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He
has calmly backed out. How can we expect
God to give us His blessing and His protection
if we demand He leave us alone?'

In light of recent events...terrorists
attack, school shootings, etc. I think it
started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she
was murdered, her body found recently)
complained she didn't want prayer in our
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said
you better not read the Bible in school. The
Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt
not steal, and love your neighbor as
yourself And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't
spank our children when they misbehave
because their little personalities would be
warped and we might damage their self-
esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide).
We said an expert should know what he's
talking about. And we said OK.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children
have no conscience, why they don't know
right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother
them to kill strangers, their classmates,
and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard
enough, we can figure it out. I think it has
a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE
SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash
God and then wonder why the world's going to
hell. Funny how we believe what the
newspapers say, but question what the Bible
says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through
e-mail and they spread like wildfire but
when you start sending messages regarding
the Lord, people think twice about sharing.
Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene
articles pass freely through cyber space, but
public discussion of God is suppressed in
the school and workplace.

Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this message,
you will not send it to many on your address
list because you're not sure what they
believe, or what they will think of you for
sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what
other people think of us than what God
thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not
then just discard it... no one will know you
did. But, if you discard this thought
process, don't sit back and complain about
what bad shape the world is in. My Best
Regards.

Honestly and respectfully,

Ben Stein


Yes this is good. Ben Stein...

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Yes this is good. Ben Stein a jew pontificating for us and doing a great job, thanks VikesFan


Submitted by concernedperson on December 29, 2007 - 1:52pm.

It's in Israel's interests...

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It's in Israel's interests for America to go to church (to the exclusion of school) and have a strong sense of fellowship with them. They gave us our 9/11 slogan "Never forget" which was lifted directly from what they say about the Holocaust. I can watch television at the laundromat and see the "sponsor a poor Jew for Jesus" commercials. A former mover and shaker in Presidential cabinets, I don't see Ben Stein referencing Anne Graham without a snicker and a twinkle in his eye. This article is will undoubtedly convince Christians in I. Falls to further endanger this country for Israel.

And I love Israel, by the way, but I love the U.S. more.


Submitted by Joespoon04 on December 29, 2007 - 4:09pm.

In fact, we need to make...

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In fact, we need to make sure God stays out of schools. We need to let people know that Katrina happened because s4it happens, even in the insular atmosphere of Americans' worldview. We need more people to know that quoting the Bible doesn't make you anything more than an intellectual bulimic. More people should know that prayer is great but so is meditation and tai chi. People in this country just don't know a whole lot, evidenced by the fact that 50% of America's adults read at the level of a middle schooler and probably interpret facts about the world just about as well.

The world has ALWAYS been going to hell, Mr. Stein. It's just that nowadays we have things called televisions and computers that let us know just how bad it's always been.


Submitted by Joespoon04 on December 29, 2007 - 4:42pm.

Joespoon04 thank you for the...

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Joespoon04 thank you for the response you gave to this post. This time I don't feel your comment is such a knee-jerk reply. Probably because I looked into the site you put in one of your earlier postings (Zietgeist film) I watched but it did not surprise me, nor make me upset. I have known all of this from my studies of the bible. While you feel that quoting the Bible makes one an intellectual bulimic, I want to state that I am much more widely read than that. The opinions I hold are because of my life journey growing up in the sixties and seventies. Yes the world is bad and always has been, nothing new there either. I have delved into a lot of different religions looking for something that would bring me the peace I so desparately needed in my life. Having pierced myself through with many sorrows, I came to become a Christian, I don't expect you to understand, nor am I trying to convert you, but it has helped me to become a better person. I wish you well, and may you find peace of mind, peace of heart, and be supplied with the resources you need.


Submitted by concernedperson on December 29, 2007 - 6:41pm.

Concernedperson, Thank you....

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Concernedperson,

Thank you. You must be an enlightened Christian to have written such a graceful post. I wish the best to you, as well.


Submitted by Joespoon04 on December 29, 2007 - 6:45pm.

I somewhat disagree with the...

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I somewhat disagree with the world has always been goin to hell thing. Along with industry and technology the rate at which it is going to hell has increased exponentially. Just my 2 pennies though.


Submitted by nobody special on December 29, 2007 - 6:48pm.

Exponential growth of...

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Exponential growth of technology and knowledge is something I've been reading about in The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil, the world's preeminent futurist and renowned transhumanist. I think that given the tremendous speed and power of our advances in the sciences, we are well able to heal the world if there was a financial incentive in it.

But I DO think that the proximity of my consciousness to all other human consciousness via radio, telephone, television and the internet is a major player in the "bubbling-up" of fear and feelings of doom.


Submitted by Joespoon04 on December 29, 2007 - 6:59pm.

Of course the "bubbling up"...

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Of course the "bubbling up" is coming into play. I have done my research on global warming and the effects of industry on the environment. I just know the holes in the ozone and plenty of other problems we caused or are causing aren't getting any better by keeping industry going full tilt. Is it possible the tsunami and earthquakes have anything to do with milking so much oil out of the earth. From what I understand the oil lubricates the plates while providing a cushion between the core and the plates.


Submitted by nobody special on December 29, 2007 - 7:09pm.

We could replace it if we...

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We could replace it if we liposuctioned everyone in Kansas, though. Problem solved.


Submitted by Joespoon04 on December 29, 2007 - 7:21pm.

Hmmm? Obesity, another good...

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Hmmm? Obesity, another good issue. How is it that an illness so debilitating yet preventable is so prevalent in our society? Is it kind of like "look at us, we're so rich we can afford to eat ourselves to death" or is it like we are so depressed at all the bad choices we've made that we are self destructive. Or maybe something else? Hmmmm


Submitted by nobody special on December 29, 2007 - 7:29pm.

Oddly enough, a lot of it...

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Oddly enough, a lot of it has to do with poverty. There's a long history of poor people frying everything from turkey necks to green beans, simply to add to the caloric content of the bottom-shelf foods themselves. Because I can go to the store and buy a can of crisco for like, a dollar, I can then bread and fry my velveeta cheese; a meal for pennies. That showed up on the news a couple of months ago, I think.

I'm fat for a different reason. I happen to like imported pate and Jarlsberg, and I mostly just read a lot. So there you go.


Submitted by Joespoon04 on December 29, 2007 - 7:38pm.

Interesting about the...

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Interesting about the poverty. It stands to reason. I think it may be our destructive nature too. Many people do not want to be fat and try hard not to be. Almost like a modern day plague. Many of these people aren't poor. Seems like another off the wall topic comes into play here. Why is it that the things we really enjoy are the worst for us. Whether it be eating or acitvities or whatever. Seems like something I think about alot.


Submitted by nobody special on December 29, 2007 - 7:45pm.

We like things that ARE good...

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We like things that ARE good for us, as well as things that aren't. If our most basic biology dictates our desire to stay alive, then we do things that are in line with sustaining life. The things that are bad for us, though, are perhaps only bad in excess. Sugars and fats are energy for our bodies. In excess, they're killers.

I think the whole thing is very Zen. The equally weighted hands of the Libra give us balance, the Yin and the Yang are the makeup of our lives, the day and the night measure our time, and dualities such as the two hemispheres of the brain make one whole.

Imbalance is artificial and unnatural. I think you said it yourself that we're out of touch with nature. I think you're right.


Submitted by Joespoon04 on December 29, 2007 - 8:02pm.

I like snowboarding =...

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I like snowboarding = dangerous.
I really like red meat and fatty foods = dangerous in excess. I like to get wasted = dangerous. People like smoiking and drugs. Just a thought, seems like most people's favortie things are usually bad for them. Hence the inability to quit bad habo its or lose weight or whatever. I think it would benefit everyone to be a little more primative. It often seems people equate all the new fads with being more sophisticated.


Submitted by nobody special on December 29, 2007 - 8:12pm.

Real sophistocation is being...

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Real sophistocation is being able to tolerate your own presence and thoughts for long periods without music, internet or television. Because then, of course, you're less prone to doing anything you don't automatically think deeply about first. "Stimulus-response" is the most primitive biological and neurological mechanism there is. Witness roj2000. Real sophistication is knowing exactly why you are the way you are.


Submitted by Joespoon04 on December 29, 2007 - 8:21pm.

It doesn't seem as though...

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It doesn't seem as though our people are very tolerant of anything. Pherhaps you're onto something. After that last line I have a feeling you're about to recite the serenity prayer.


Submitted by nobody special on December 29, 2007 - 8:26pm.

See you at the alamo...

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See you at the alamo tomorrow?

There's a long history of solitary wise men like the desert fathers of Russia, the monks of Patmos, Thoreau and many others who figured out what they were all about by existing all alone. Granted, I only did my stint for five years, but I certainly am more self-aware for it.


Submitted by Joespoon04 on December 29, 2007 - 8:34pm.

Most people in our culture...

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Most people in our culture see a person as anti-social just for wanting some alone time once in awhile. Just one more way we strayed from the ways of our ancestors.


Submitted by nobody special on December 29, 2007 - 9:32pm.

Nobody Special; That is why...

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Nobody Special; That is why I moved here from the big city, to get away from noise. I enjoy quiet, and often drive long distances without music or other distractions to bother me. I like being away from areas where my cell phone has reception, I also like to read, and enjoy many types of books. of course to be able to read and comprehend well one must have quiet. This also helps with meditation.


Submitted by concernedperson on December 29, 2007 - 9:57pm.

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