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I can not believe this is

sparky84 — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:52:59 -0500

I can not believe this is still going on! For years this man has been abusing,torturing and killing animals and for years there have been people trying to get the county to do something about it! What seems to be the problem?? Other counties don't seem to have a problem with charging people for animal abuse. Oh yeah, good old boys...judge being friends with the abuser and his (now deceased father). I'll be sending this story on to CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX. Getting the press involved usually results in some pretty swift actions. Animal abuse is wrong and the judge has plenty of evidence to do something about it.

Actually, I believe the

bayside — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:07:34 -0500

Actually, I believe the outhouse scenario was not as bad as thought: no leaking septic tanks or faulty drain fields, just a nice big hole in the ground, hopefully a respectful distance from the lake.

As for my Rainy Lake abode, it is a composting toilet that produces a rich annual compost harvest already pre-seeded with tomatoes from last year's summer salads.

Having grown up without

kay — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:26:50 -0500

Having grown up without running water or sewer I cannot even imagine living like that again. But I do not agree with forcing those whose systems are good to hook up. Having said that at sometime they will all be failing so in the end everyone will need the system. The cost of a mound system is probably more than a central system and they are not the best answer. The size of the new homes in the Gold Shores area must have huge systems and building on rock must make putting in a mound almost impossible. This topic should probably be a new forum.

Thanks for the comments,

Doorsman 54 — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:49:30 -0500

Thanks for the comments, everyone, even though I gave Kay a bit of a shot I think she?(avatar?)simply throws in something to generate discussion. Northwoods, I am on a sub-committee dealing with the sewer extention. This project runs from Crane Lake to Jackfish. How much would it cost, $11 to $25,000,000. What would it cost a household?, too much without state and federal involvment. Yes, this is still our tax money but I am more than willing to involve California or North Carolina in our efforts to pay for infrastucture for our area as maybe they will use whatever we construct. Again, we can not afford big projects unless they are G.O. bonded or Revenue Bonded and also help again from the state or fed. If this sewer project did go through without help, the cost per month would be in excess of $400.00 per. NOT!!! We do need new systems, if you remember the fights over East Koochiching Sewer districts formation and recently Jackfish' formation, the uproar that caused was huge, now that these are in place people love it, but it does have to be affordable to the property owner, but again, it has to be done for the good of the watershed. Thanks again, we hope our trip has some impact on our town and greater community. And Kay, you are right on, even a new septic system(in ground or mound) is failing right out of the gate, so a central system or closed area spray Irrigation are a couple of the only systems that would work. Chopper

Its all about the cost and

kay — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:24:50 -0500

Its all about the cost and not wanting to pay. Everyone also thinks it is not THEIR sewer that is failing.

I don't usually get a chance

Thomas L. Johnson — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:44:40 -0500

I don't usually get a chance to disagree with northwoods, so I relish the chance to ask him: what is it about sewers that is not worth paying for? Imagine that the governments of the past had resisted putting in roads -- that would be a bad thing. Imagine that there was no power up to the lake -- that would make life tough; I know, because we built our cabin without power. Now is the time for number three that every civilized part of the American culture has -- sewer systems. Or is the idea of living in a place like Haiti an attractive one?

It was a good thing that people who had outhouses just a matter of yards away from Rainy Lake now have flushing toilets. In the long run, civilization adds value to an area and the taxpayer argument, while it might hold water when it comes to frivolous expenses, hardly holds water [sorry] when it comes to sanitation -- at least not in our part of the world. Or am I mistaken?

northwoods The question is

northwoods — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:43:14 -0500

northwoods

The question is simple: How much is the sewer line going to cost each taxpayer? How much in taxes ? How much in monthly fees? In washington they pushed this sewer line to islandview. Now it won't happen for nothing tell us what the expected charges will be. If no one can tell us now, when can they tell us.

You guys did what good local

Thomas L. Johnson — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:54:36 -0500

You guys did what good local politicians should do -- get your names, faces, and community concerns known in Washington D. C. One of the great assets we have is a senior congressman like Oberstar who has the ability to move things in our direction. But we've got to seem interested -- Doorsman, ignore the rubes when they act like rubes and congratulate them on the rare occasions when they don't. Good work -- and it was fun to see you on youtube last night. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkUBwlf4ThI

Actually I think it was a

kay — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:03:01 -0500

Actually I think it was a good idea to go. I support the Park and feel it is the one good thing the area has going for it. The comment was that northwoods was not upset about the CA trip which has none or little benefit to the community but for some people anything to do with the Park makes them mad.

Northwoods, partying hard?

Doorsman 54 — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:41:25 -0500

Northwoods, partying hard? We had meetings and discussions from 7am to 10 pm and then, yes, food and drink and sleep. The trip cost "us" taxpayers about $1600 for the city members and about the same for county members and about $300 out of most of our pockets. If you think that we would not take in some of Washingtons sites(3 hours) while we were there baffles me, who wouldn't. Most of the time it was running and meeting, something I challenge any one to do as good as the people who traveled to DC on this matter. I'm not sure about the rest of your question.
Kay, typical cynical comment and 21, we visited members from the other side of the eisle too, as a matter of fact, Andy Burmeister who set this up and stated "this was exteamly rare and successful to get as many members and STAFF as we did get to our presentation," worked for Coleman and has contacts with the likes of my man McCain and others. I do believe we made an impact, and it was a very small price to pay to walk the Halls of Congress and at the minimum pop one's head in offices,like my man McCain, and say hi and why.As far as Jim Oberstar, he is one of the most respected members of Congress and that is evident when ever you mention his name. He is an important portal for local's to use to reach others who make decisions. Also,I'm to fat to climb a rope, real or imaginary. Any further questions you are welcome to call me, I am listed, Chopper.

Obama and Pelosi Staff?

shway21 — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:47:05 -0500

Obama and Pelosi Staff? hmm.....Should be about as productive as climbing an imaginary rope.

It could be more or less

kay — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:12:50 -0500

It could be more or less than a visit to see Rocky and Bullwinkle.

northwoods I realize that

northwoods — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:32:56 -0500

northwoods

I realize that the local politicians are going to washington and living large and partying with congress on we the taxpayers. Has anyone asked how much all this is going to cost us the taxpayer. Answer the questions: How much to we pay per year , per month. Just tell us before november so we can decide with our votes. Why not tell the county env department staffers to do their jobs and regulate the poluters.

WOW somehow the decision is

kay — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:38:23 -0500

WOW somehow the decision is going to have be a fair one and unbiased. I think the board should interview each person and look at examples of their work. Have each one give a presentation. Both are talented and professional so it will depend on their work and not who knows who. Above all be FAIR. Or flip a coin (my husbands idea)

Cedulie's Photography

ifallsgirl — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:29:50 -0500

Cedulie's Photography deserves the bid for the 2010-2011 school year pictures. She has been in this business for years, knows what she is doing, and is extremely professional. I have seen many pictures that she has taken and they are phenomenal. You can see the great pride she takes in her job and it reflects not only on the quality of her pictures but in the backgrounds she uses as well. My family has had all our pictures taken by Cedulie, and I intend to keep it that way. I vote for Cedulie's Photography!